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February 25, 2006

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zero

first thoughts about the last two articles.

1. saddam is said to have emulated stalin as his "ideal" leader.

2. this country isn't a democracy, it's an oligarchy.

chuck

On your second point, this is why I argue that the US is not an example of democratic capitalism, but rather of plutocratic capitalism.

Brad Anderson

So Chuck, how would capitalism have to be modified to go with democracy? How are you defining the terms?

chuck

It is hard to identify a hard and fast line between democratic and plutocratic capitalism, but when the playing field is as unlevel as today, I am sure we can say we have crossed the line. I would be interested in a serious debate about how we make sure capitalism stays focused on the common good rather than just "unfettered" markets.

Bill

I went over to the Huffington Post for the first time and read some of the comments there about the Buckley article. Yikes! Why didn't somebody warn me about what I'd read over there?! I think the Buckley article is significant in the influence it could have in moving our nation closer to consensus in putting an end to our military involvement in Iraq. What troubled me about many of the Huffington comments is they gave me the impression that the fact that Iraq is on the verge of plunging into all-out civil war is good news and cause for celebration because it proves Bush is a failure. Never mind the unspeakable suffering such a war would add to the suffering the people of Iraq are already enduring. We must not allow our disgust of a president, however justified, to cloud our moral sensibilities.

zero

it's ok, billbill.
the news service portion of huff post is just that....news gathered and offered for readers to peruse.
as for the blog and the comments, it's wide open. it's not a single slant or focus.
it's not "evil"!

as for it being a "good thing" that there could be civil war in iraq, that was a program segment on fox news. that's why people are talking about it. scary, huh?

zero

agreed on the term chuck calls america.
actually most anything that defines haves and have nots, oppression in all forms is howi would define america. third world works too.

Brad Anderson

Speaking of unbridled capitalism, check this out - perhaps and "outrage of the day," Chuck?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/27/international/middleeast/27contract.html?hp&ex=1141102800&en=8930bc6384bc57a9&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Also check this Hauerwas piece out - it's partially why I asked the question above.

http://www.crosscurrents.org/hauerwas200506.htm

chuck

Hey, folks, good comments. Bill, Zero is right about the HuffPo blog, and so many other blogs, too, for that matter. Right and left are not so civil anymore....if they ever were.
thanks for the links, Brad.

Bill

But I do think hate speech is evil, zero, and that is what many of the comments were. I find it to be very common on political and religious blogs, and very troubling.

zero

now, now, billbill. my impression was that you thought the huff post itself was no good. that's not the case. and with anything, because some people choose to act badly doesn't mean it's all bad. with those posts, i just don't read them. in fact, other than this site, i don't read the comments or make any at all even when i do read some of the information provided. the frustration level has reached such a peak for many persons in this country there isn't any tolerance left in them. no excuse, just a thought for as to why. but we should all be "nice".

chuck

Why, Zero, I am honored that you have chosen this place to be where you share your thoughts! We are all richer for it.

zero

as am i, chuck. living on the farm is life affirming but the small town nearby doesn't provide any outlet for the enrichment my intellect needs to be nourished. i have that here. thank you, everyone! (my soul is nourished as well)....

Brad Anderson

So Zero, the question is, "When are you having us all out at the farm?" :-)

zero

whenever chuck decides to have the first
"imitatiochristi" convention, brad. or if someone just wants to visit. there's 30 acres of forest with trails so if you are a camper you can hang out in the woods. there's a lake so if you like to fish or paddleboat you can do that. there's a screened porch on the house overlooking the lake so if you don't want to go any further than the front door you can still be outside. the porch is a great reading place. or listening to cardinals baseball on the radio in the dark. been working on the sculpture garden for awhile now. health concerns halted progress but it moves along. oh, here is definitely wonderful. for me, the pets and visitors....it has the best seal of approval of all. my grandchildren would rather be here than anywhere else they know!

Brad Anderson

Are you in the St. Louis area, then? I don't think I ever caught your location (or even region).

zero

southern illinois, not quite an hour and a half due east of st louis.

chuck

Ah, first convention, now that's a thought!

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