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February 03, 2010

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Andrew

It is interesting how easily we can lose touch with what is important, especially when we are surrounded by groups of like minded people causing groupthink. Had to experience the power of this first hand with a good friend a few years back...

http://whatisthebible.com/2010/02/01/fellowship-of-the-sword-quest.aspx

zero

is this the good friend's blog, andrew, as i am unclear? this is an interesting take on beliefs. that exclusive club really is important to some. it shows as well in the various sects of christianity. each says their's is the "true" faith. i've often wondered if that's so they can have members, therefore dollars.

the survey's results weren't completely out of whack. note that more respondents thought obama was born in the u.s., that he wants to stop terrorists. it's evenly split on acorn's role in the 2008 election. the two questions that caught my attention, however, were the last two. when it comes to the personal issue of sex the respondents are no! which i take as when it's their own situations they want to be left alone. that should be how it is generally. people should just be left alone....by everyone else!

david beasley

Prime Minister Yulia V. Tymoshenko's race for re-election is similar in the Ukraine as "beliefs" are concerned. Democracy or Communism or a govenrment not letting the right hand know what ot to whom the left hands deals. Except unlike in USA the little Ukraine is between Russia and Europe as to ideologies. To read the campaign slurs between the candidates reminds me of the W. Bush elections but I know that their type of protest, unlike in USA, can lead to an overthrow of government and years of internal lethal consequence. I wonder how this election plays out in the world economic problems where the current immediate government is held responsible for the past's mistakes.

zero

like the entire eight years of bush w was due to the problems created by clinton? or the "trials" and executions of those descenters in last year's "election" in iran? this country might not outright kill the opposition, unless you discount political assassinations (jfk, rfk, mlk, x, and others)but these people are silenced nonetheless. anyone who thinks this is the land of the free and home of the brave is delusional. as to your reference, david, i am unaware of that situation. maybe that's what i get for eschewing most news sources, most of the time in favor of peace and quiet.

david beasley

z, I guess this says it all (about faith beliefs as transient things)for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLt8kyb-oKc

zero

a decent summary, david. not that i can understand all the words. never could with dylan even when i was young and he was new.

david beasley

& how about that "Miss me yet?" George W. Bush grinning face billboard in Minn.?

zero

miss w? how could we when his female counterpart completely fill the space?


are you snowed in, david? and everyone else on the east coast?

david beasley

not yet though it is ...get this... blowing in from the south! forecast for 3-4 inches and you know that'll create a panic for bread and milk and beer and chips and such... down here.

zero

and toilet paper.

david beasley

Well, and some, greenies before the greens were here, prefer Sears Catalogs down here.

david beasley

we, Central South Carolina, got 4 inches of snow at least but the 42 F today will probably clean it up.

I really wonder if air conditioning in home to car to work place keeps many out of touch with reality. You know I figure some people can go their entire lives without experiences things like fresh air and grass as they live in AC and concrete, tarmac civilization.

zero

that's so true, david. when i was a kid there was no air conditioning. fans if we were lucky, and only one or two. kids played outside all the time because it wasn't any different between in and out and sometimes out felt better. after supper all the neighbors would go outside and sit on their porches, talk to each other, stroll up and down the sidewalk to visit, kids played with each other. it was a neighborhood. now everyone is inside. and the worst for it.

Andrew

Yes, I am the good friend. You are definitely right about early church being a sect, yet they followed the great commission to the T. I have no problem with brotherhood and small groups, but the focus should continue to be on spreading the gospel.

david beasley

zero, One summer I thumbed up to New York City, 1969, and I got a job, lived in Greenwich Village and commuted to the job in Brooklyn on the subway. A young man, life long resident of Brooklyn, I worked with was terrified of grass. Not a phobia as such but a sense of not liking the stuff which he was so unfamiliar with... grass maybe associated with dog poop and such? We talked (me in total disbelief) for quiet a while about this. Putting me on? NO! I asked about his going to Central Park and he turned white with a nervious reaction.

Andrew are you familiar with Quakers,also called Society of Friends?

zero

ok, andrew. thank you for the clarification.

david. i believe that. definitely.

david beasley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2kZKI7pSHs

I like this youtube tune! How about you?

"Belief systems" is a great wide,deep,high topic indeed. Red on one end of the golden line and green on the other. And lots of confused folks inbetween but never near the the middle violet. Linny Bruce where are you?

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